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Did You Ever Wonder? ~ A column published Sundays in The Gazette in Colorado Springs, CO.

Remembering the 1960 Boy Scout Jamboree

February 1st, 2010, 6:49 pm by Linda Navarro

Years ago while visiting Colorado Springs, we came upon a monument to honor the 50th anniversary of the Boy Scouts. They had their Jamboree in Colorado Springs that year. We have a picture of my son, who at the time was a Boy Scout, next to the monument.  Fast forward 18 years, I have moved to the Springs and my son, who is now a Boy Scout Leader, came to visit and wanted to find the monument to take another picture as it is the Boy Scouts 100th anniversary. We were told it was in the parking lot of a store on Jamboree Circle. We searched for almost an hour and could not find it.  Could you please tell us exactly where it is.
— Pat Sonzogni

ANSWER: You were close — and Jamboree seemed the obvious choice – but you needed to go to the intersection of Voyager and Briargate parkways. It’s in the same area as the statues of the Briargate horses and is a boulder with a plaque.

Because of your question and since Mayor Lionel Rivera has declared 2010 “The Year of the Boy Scouts” in Colorado Springs, honoring the 100th anniversary, it was fun taking a look back at the Jamboree.

It was July 22-29, 1960 and was on thousands of acres that were north of the city at that time, near the Air Force Academy.

Scouts from every state and 38 countries, 55,600 strong, turned this temporary tent city  — which included a 60-acre field hospital — into the fourth largest city in Colorado. Toward the end of the Jamboree, another 25,000 were on site for Parents’ Day.

Scouts cooked their meals over charcoal fires and the Gazette Telegraph reported there were 16,000 campfires going at once. More than 1,278,000 meals were prepared during the event.

Among the celebrities who visited the site: James Arness, Marshal Matt Dillon of “Gunsmoke” and President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

A special treat for the Scouts was a full-fledged rodeo by the local Pikes Peak or Bust Rodeo crew.

Colorado Springs sale shoppers were in for a treat after the incredible tent city turned back into a ranch and acres of open land. In August 1960 Ross Auction had a super-duper auction of thousands and thousands of tents, benches, cooking utensils and much, much more.

The Jamboree was the second Scout event in our area. A year before, in 1959, thousands of Girls Scouts had been camped south of that area for the Senior Scout Roundup.

We’re guessing there are quite a number of people who remember the Jamboree and Roundup.
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Hold to the left when turning at medians; readers say ‘not me’

January 22nd, 2010, 3:23 pm by Linda Navarro

What’s the correct way to make a left turn into the “grass barriers” (medians) when you’re downtown in Colorado Springs?  On Nevada and the other streets, there’s the break in the greenway.  When I make a left turn and “sit” in that “island” area I always keep my car on the “right” side of the road — as if I were following the Colorado Driver’s Manual instructions for making a left turn from a one-way street to a two-way street.  However, I noticed it is very common for people to pull into the “left” side — or “wrong” side, in my mind.  I find there’s much confusion actually on how to make a left turn using those little breaks in the greenway. Please clarify.
— Denise Jacoby

Answer: The rule is the same at any street, says the Colorado Springs Police Department:  Turn with the curb closest to you on any turn, right or left. If you and another driver are turning left in different directions at a median, don’t pull in front of that driver’s vehicle to complete your left turn.

Hope that helps clear up what you thought were right and wrong. Sometimes other drivers are just as confused.
Here’s City Code 10.7.103: POSITION AND METHOD OF TURNING: Whenever practicable, the left turn shall be made to the left of the center of the intersection.

ONE WEEK LATER: My goodness, last Saturday’s answer dealing with how to make a left turn at a median stirred up a bit of a hornet’s nest. Some readers thought it was, well, hogwash, and they had never done it that way.

“If I hug the left side, that puts me directly facing oncoming traffic on the cross street.  If for some reason my turn cannot be completed, what do I do then?  I know from your article that city code states this is the correct way to do it, but to me it just doesn’t make sense!” said Panchita Osborne.

Buck Blessing said that based on our answer “the cars will now be sitting on the ‘wrong’ side of the road, and pointing directly at any oncoming traffic from the side street. If the side street traffic is passing straight through the intersection, you’ve really got a mess. It’s not the same as a normal left turn where you stay in your lane until you complete the turn. In the median case, and if the vehicle has to wait there for oncoming traffic to clear, the left-turning car has left the lane of traffic they were in, and has effectively joined the road perpendicular to the direction they had been traveling. If they go passenger door to passenger door, both cars will be on the wrong side of the road and will be pointing directly at any oncoming traffic from the side road.

“As a 29 year resident of the Old Northend, I can tell you that this is seldom a problem. People turn on both sides and generally it is determined by the amount of traffic and whether there are vehicles present on the side street. ”

gunny 42 responded online: “If you remember that even the cars in that median area are considered vehicles that are in an intersection, and that the cross-street traffic is obligated to let all traffic ‘in the intersection’ clear that intersection before they legally can enter, then it really isn’t a problem. The problems only kick in when people get too impatient (hard to imagine, I know) and can’t wait for those in that intersection to clear it (out the other side past the intersecting curb lines), yup, then you have a mess all right, but that’s just impatient people for ya’”

mememeyaknow wrote online: “It is no different than if the median was not there. You don’t go ‘around’ the car coming from the opposite direction and turning left on any other street.”

Luther H. Haas said, “I am responding to this article because I believe the city code is absolutely dumber than rocks and is also moronic. Let me give you an example.  We are driving north on Nevada Avenue. I get into the left lane so I can turn left and cross Nevada Avenue and drive into the parking lot of Penrose Hospital. According to city code, I am supposed to get on the extreme left curb side so that another driver who is coming south on Nevada and wanting to turn left is supposed to pass me on my passenger side. Now I sitting there when a vehicle is coming out of Penrose Hospital waiting for the Nevada Avenue south bound traffic to clear so the vehicle can cross Nevada.  Where do you think the vehicle coming from Penrose is supposed to go? On my passenger side of the vehicle?  Who now has the right-of-way? If a city policeperson ever cites me for not being on the left side of the median turnoff I will definitely go to court because the city code defies all logic and the norm of the Colorado Drivers Manual.”

These were just a tiny sampling of the many e-mail and online responses. And you thought health care was the only thing people couldn’t reach a consensus about!
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Going boom, boom, boom at Fort Carson

January 22nd, 2010, 3:20 pm by Linda Navarro

I’m wondering what is causing the loud booming noise near Cheyenne Mountain/Fort Carson. I have heard it previously and for the last two days it’s been pretty consistent. I live in the Broadmoor Bluffs area and sometimes the percussion is so hard it shakes the house slightly. I’m thinking maybe artillery training at Fort Carson, but I can’t find any information on it. If I knew what was causing it, it would be easier to live with.
— C.P.

Answer: It’s what’s fondly referred to in our area as “the sounds of freedom.” The soldiers are training in artillery and mortar fire. Right now, your percussion is courtesy the 3rd Brigade Combat Team, which is in final preparations before deploying to Iraq in March, explained Public Affairs Officer Lt. Col. Steve V. Wollman. It’s important they get this final  training so their skills are finely honed, he said. Another large group leaves this summer.
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Monument’s stuffed animals are on the Las Vegas Strip

January 15th, 2010, 5:55 pm by Linda Navarro

My inquiry is about an attractive building that housed a display of stuffed animals housed in artistic and environmental settings. Probably in the 1980s(?) we would take our guests to visit. Do you know if they moved and where? I have a friend into taxidermy and would like to follow through on this display.
— Doris Becker

ANSWER: It was the Wildlife World Museum on a frontage road along the east side of Interstate 25 in Monument. It had been there for seven years when it closed down in 1988. Reasons cited included no direct access from the interstate, no directional highway signs were allowed and a tax-exempt status had been denied.

What many people remembered most about the site was the majestic Gerald Balciar bronze sculpture of an elk issuing his call toward the mountains. This big fellow was purchased by a builder who donated it and other sculptures to a sculpture garden in front of Westminster City Hall, reportedly as part of a swap involving a development.

Everything else in the exhibit was shipped to the Las Vegas Natural History Museum on the Las Vegas Strip.

We do have a new wildlife museum — this one interactive — within driving range: The Wildlife Experience in Parker, south of Denver. For information: 1-720-488-3300, http://www.thewildlifeexperience.org

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The bridge to nowhere near Goose Gossage Park

January 15th, 2010, 5:54 pm by Linda Navarro

Do you know anything about the partially built stone bridge along the Pikes Peak Greenway Trail?  It’s located next to the dirt bike park on the section of the trail that parallels Mark Dabling (Boulevard) and looks to be quite old. One end of the bridge runs directly into a hillside, the other end is demolished or was never completed.
— Chris

ANSWER: This was the Cascade Avenue bridge, which was destroyed in the 1935 Monument Creek flood. Cascade Avenue (Colorado Highway 1) had been the main route out of town to Monument and Denver. When more convenient roads and highways with fewer twists and turns were constructed, there was no need to repair this bridge.

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Can Utilities dig in my yard?

January 15th, 2010, 5:52 pm by Linda Navarro

What is the legal loophole that allows Colorado Springs Utilities to disrupt (ie, digging) private property without so much as a courtesy notification, much less permission?
— Kelli Whitney

ANSWER: “Typically, if we have to infringe on private property without notice, it’s an emergency situation like a main break or a damaged service line,” said utilities spokesman Steve Berry. “Even then, we try to communicate with the homeowner, but sometimes that’s not possible if they are not at home. If it’s an ongoing project, a planned project, where we’re going to be disrupting private property, we always try to notify the homeowner.”
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Pounding pedestrian lights won’t make them work quicker

January 6th, 2010, 4:10 pm by Linda Navarro

The street lights typically turn red and green on a regular, probably preset, schedule on almost all intersections in the city.  Hundreds of times I have observed pedestrians pushing the button on the light poles at intersections, hoping that the light will turn quicker for them. Except for school crossings between intersections, this almost invariably never happens. Are these buttons even connected to anything?
— H.L.

ANSWER: This brought a chuckle because we had just spotted a pedestrian hit a button 22 times trying to get it to change immediately. It didn’t.

City traffic engineers explained that a camera or a  traffic loop sensor in the pavement detects when there is traffic and controls the light sequence for traffic.

The push button controls the pedestrian signal and allows time for a pedestrian to cross the street.  They’re totally different devices inside the control cabinet.

And, no, hitting the button — no matter how many times — won’t instantly trigger the pedestrian-crossing light.  It’s all part of the total light sequencing for everyone at that intersection. Just picture what it would be like for traffic flow if the traffic lights changed instantly every time a pedestrian pushed the button.

New cameras on the market detect when there are pedestrians at an intersection, eliminating the pushing of buttons. We don’t yet have these locally.

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What’s with the union banner on North Cascade?

January 4th, 2010, 7:22 pm by Linda Navarro

Downtown across from the library on Cascade there is a picket sign in front of GE Johnson Construction. My friend says it has been there for a long time. This company builds huge projects all over the area. What’s the deal?
– Jamie Lynn

Answer: The banner has been there probably 18 months and is NOT a picket line or picketing action. GE Johnson Construction Executive Vice President Dave Ivis said it is part of a several-year national campaign by the United Brotherhood of Carpenters “protesting that we have used a local drywall contractor, Spacecon.” However, Ivis pointed out, “there are no union local drywallers in Colorado Springs.”
Ivis said, “They don’t have a dispute with us (GE Johnson); they have a problem with us hiring Spacecon. But we have a bargaining agreement with the union. We can hire nonunion.”
Why not protest outside the Spacecon office instead? For one thing, it’s not on a main downtown thoroughfare.
Here’s an interesting tidbit: The people manning the union’s protest banner outside GE Johnson are apparently not union workers. They’re day laborers hired by the union. Yes, we asked them after they had walked back across Cascade Avenue after lunch at the soup kitchen.
You’ll see the banners in Denver and other cities nationwide where the Pennsylvania-based Spacecon has worked on projects. Complaints by Carpenters’ District Council of Kansas City & Vicinity against Spacecon include using nonunion workers, “misclassification of workers as independent contractors to avoid withholding taxes” and using undocumented workers.

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Is that a kiln near the Sunbird?

January 4th, 2010, 7:04 pm by Linda Navarro

As you drive North on I-25, just past the Sunbird restaurant in the valley to the north on the left side, is a stone, dome-looking structure. It’s quite large and appears like some sort of kiln. So my wife and I couldn’t stand it, and we went to investigate.  On the inside it looks more like a grain silo, about 10-12 feet deep now filled in with junk, and about 10-12 feet wide. Is this some sort of air vent for a mining operation, storage facility, kiln or drying oven?
— Andrew and Lisa

Answer:  There are several unusual structures in this area. One is a beehive/honeycomb coking oven where ore was cooked when the area was the Pikeview Mine complex from 1897 to 1957. It is one of the last surface remains from this area’s rich mining past. Coking coal was heated at an extremely high temperature and the coke/carbon remaining was pure enough to be used for smelting ore in the production of iron and steel.
Earlier, local resident Darrell Green shared family stories about having to save animals that had fallen into the oven hole. Green told us that his now-deceased father could ride his appaloosa horses across the 500 acres all the way to the Flying W Ranch property to the west. It’s an open expanse but one that requires caution. “There are numerous open mine shafts spread out over the bluffs,” Green said.

Peter Lobue says the particular structure you’re referring to is something quite different, an old cistern. “My dad, Michael Lobue, owned that property from 1924-1949, which was previously a brickyard that produced sandstone bricks. Our water supply was a pipeline from North Nevada Avenue, crossed Monument Creek, went under the highway and railroad tracks. During the heavy rain season, trees would flow down the creek and tear out the water line and sometimes in the winter the line would freeze, leaving us without water. We built a cistern out of bricks and kept it full of water for these emergencies. The dome you are referring to was a cistern.”

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Why isn’t the Cimarron exit finished?

January 4th, 2010, 6:58 pm by Linda Navarro

I’ve been wondering about this ever since the reconstruction of I-25 was supposedly totally completed through much of Colorado Springs. I sent an e-mail to the Colorado Department of Transportation about a year ago and never received an answer, and the situation still exists.
On the west side of the southbound I-25 bridge over Colorado Avenue are some big yellow barrels and some concrete barricades, both of which look temporary, but which have been in place ever since the reconstruction project. Why have the permanent bridge railings or other permanent fixtures never been completed and why have these temporary protective barriers remained?
— John Poyzer

Answer:  Bob Wilson, of CDOT, said this is the future off-ramp for the new Cimarron interchange. It was built during COSMIX and will remain until that part of the project is prioritized. This is part of the regional and statewide plan and must be reconstructed. Wilson said, “sometimes we will build an infrastructure for future projects so we don’t have to go back in and rebuild it later. This is more cost-effective.” For example, COSMIX built parts of the interstate to accommodate four lanes and there are just three right now.

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